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Christ · 12-05-2009, 12:49 PM

pgfpro -

TBH, I'm not even sure what people pay in this area for electricity or natural gas.

Regardless, even if you could build the H2 gen for $50, and get the batteries for $7 each, you're already over $75, and you haven't even installed it, and that's assuming you only needed 2 batteries. For the average consumer, I still don't see where you're going to save anything at all.

On top of that, you need a grid charger, and even cheap ones aren't really cheap anymore. So unless you're going to save over $100 in fuel any time soon because of doing this, it's just not the "low hanging fruit" that we should be focused on for the most part.

It's great to think in the abstract about how things might help or hurt efficiency or economy (which, of course, are two different things), but sometimes, it also helps to not be quite so dead set on the logistics of things that aren't going to pay for themselves.

That said, there is no reason I can see for someone to not try it. Maybe we're all missing something that hasn't been brought up yet, and if so, maybe we won't really see whatever it is until a test has been performed...

Nerys - Balls yours, man. You started it, you wanna test it? I'll look forward to your results.

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Christ Moderate your Moderation. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Troy, Pa. Posts: 8,919 Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi 90 day: 45.22 mpg (US) Thanks: 1,369 Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts	pgfpro - TBH, I'm not even sure what people pay in this area for electricity or natural gas. Regardless, even if you could build the H2 gen for $50, and get the batteries for $7 each, you're already over $75, and you haven't even installed it, and that's assuming you only needed 2 batteries. For the average consumer, I still don't see where you're going to save anything at all. On top of that, you need a grid charger, and even cheap ones aren't really cheap anymore. So unless you're going to save over $100 in fuel any time soon because of doing this, it's just not the "low hanging fruit" that we should be focused on for the most part. It's great to think in the abstract about how things might help or hurt efficiency or economy (which, of course, are two different things), but sometimes, it also helps to not be quite so dead set on the logistics of things that aren't going to pay for themselves. That said, there is no reason I can see for someone to not try it. Maybe we're all missing something that hasn't been brought up yet, and if so, maybe we won't really see whatever it is until a test has been performed... Nerys - Balls yours, man. You started it, you wanna test it? I'll look forward to your results. __________________ "¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"