[dcb]

Dude, that electricity does not get to your wall % 100 efficiency, which is why it needs to leave the discussion, as we will not agree on a fair conversion factor.

so those mpge numbers are pretty much bogus as are the wishful thinking of efficiency. I don't care about wall power for this discussion, again it isn't relevant. You HAVE to compare apples to apples, i.e. petrol use to petrol use, without getting out and pushing in one case. The point is to make best use of the petrol to minimize its consumption, not hide behind manufactured complications.

and a 640hp anything is a pinky wave.