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Nerys · 01-20-2010, 09:09 PM

I don't want my cars ethanol compatible though shovel. WHY WOULD I? the solution is NOT making cars ethanol compatible. The solution is stop using wasteful dirty expensive ethanol. I am not going to spend a DIME of my money modifying my cars to run on this ILK.

If taking literally 10 minutes out of my day twice a week nets me the 55+ mpg I should be getting with this car you can BET YOUR BUTT I will do this long term. If it works its really not hard. dump a cup of water in a tank of gasoline shake it up. Come back in a few hours drain out water/alcohol dump into gas tank.

at most I would end up with 1.1gallons of ethanol/water to dispose of. Hmm makes me wonder if I can make an alcohol stove that will run on it?? now sure how the water will affect the capacity to burn it. Might cause me to end up with a great camping stove fuel source. Most likely I will just dump it down the toilet if I do not find a use for it. That should be safe as I see no warnings on alcohol bottles (medical or drinking) that say you should not flush down the drain. I will find out of course.

OF COURSE if this actually does work (I am not saying it does yet) then the next thing to do will be to ramp up production and try on the thirstier cars in the family. If I get similar results next step would be the neighbors.

IF THAT WORKS the next step is Washington DC and a lawsuit. But thats a long way off and a lot of "if's"

the REAL solution is ELECTRIC cars but they want to try anything and everything to avoid going that route since its all "good for the consumer" and "bad for the gov/corporations" to go all electric and they know it.

Moving is not an option. The "cost" of moving would exceed the cost of all the gasoline I will use in my entire lifetime. Yes when I have a second job close enough I DO take my bicycle to work. I rather enjoy doing that.

If your renting moving is a one day hassle. week at most. When you OWN a home (you can not actually own a home in this country but you get the idea) it is almost NEVER EVER sensible to move in order to save fuel. you will never ever in multiple lifetimes save more money in fuel than the cost of the move. Lets not even get into the MASSIVE downsides to living in NJ in cost of living and many other factors. No thanks.

A mortage is currently sitting at 138% interest. IF YOU COULD FIND a $100,000 home thats $138,000 in interest over the next 30 years.

If I reduced my fuel usage to ZERO it would take 62 years to break even on the move. I have NO intention of using any gasoline in 10 years. Come hell or high water I WILL be driving an electric car within 10 years time.

01-20-2010, 09:09 PM	#132 (permalink)
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