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Originally Posted by Frank Lee
I found the DOE data, which is SUPPOSED to be objective (guitarguy: the new administration hasn't come out with any refuting data have they???).
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I'm not a member of the Obama administration, but if I were, I wouldn't waste any time or money unnecessarily refuting data, legitimate or otherwise, because it's all a moot point. The fact was, is, and remains that ANWR is a National Wildlife Refuge and nobody has to take bribes to keep it that way. Drilling can't take place unless laws are changed.
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Originally Posted by bestclimb
I suppose none of those convictions were overturned
Regardless of who initiated the report Stevens did not create the data in it. |
Suppose what you will, but I was talking about facts, not supposition. But while you're supposing, do you suppose that OJ didn't kill his wife because he wasn't found guilty? The fact is that Ted Stevens was charged with 7 felonies and found guilty by a jury of his peers on all 7 counts and had those convictions overturned on a legal technicality. That doesn't mean that he didn't commit those felonies - it just means that he got away with it.
While you're supposing, suppose that in a "drill baby, drill" friendly environment - with a failed oilman as president, and a former CEO of Haliburton as his co-president sidekick - that a man who did take oil money bribes, had in place people who he knew would write a favorable pro-drilling assessment. Suppose that the data was already collected by the people who stand to make billions of dollars by drilling, and only had to be compiled into a favorable report. Suppose that the lobbyists who paid bribes to Ted Stevens put together the report, and only had to present it to the proper people to have their names affixed to it. Suppose, suppose, suppose. Or if you want to get back to talking about facts instead of supposition, look at the fact that this document has a disclaimer that it does not necessarily reflect the opinions of the DOE.
From the title page of the document in question:
"This report was prepared by the Energy Information Administration, the independent statistical and analytical agency within the Department of Energy. The information contained herein should be attributed to the Energy Information Administration and should not be construed as advocating or reflecting any policy position of the Department of Energy or any other organization. Service Reports are prepared by the Energy Information Administration upon special request and are based on assumptions specified by the requester."
...based on assumptions specified by the requester. There you go.