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Nerys · 03-27-2010, 08:55 AM

I know this is PURELY temporary. Here is how I plan to run things. I know there are OTHER things I am removing unintentionally from the gas. Every washing so far has had these wispy white "solids" form at the boundary layer between the alcohol/water and gasoline. I make sure this stuff leaves with the water (don't want it clogging my fuel filters) but I am guessing this was something that was mixed in with the gas. Who knows what else I am removing :-)

I plan to run 3-4 tanks of washed gas. Confirm or Deny a difference. If no difference I go back to regular gas and try to figure out what is wrong with all my cars to lose 20+% of their fuel economy.

If confirmed my next step is to use proper regular E0 ie I drive up to allentown with 8 gas jugs and buy a bunch of E0

at the same time I wash some gas for my jeep my van and my pop's van and lincoln and my managers saturn and my mom's van and we see if they also see an improvement in FE.

Do some ABA testing few tanks of E0 then a few tanks of E10 few tanks of E0 few tanks of E10 get the data.

If this still confirms that ethanol is the source of the problem the next step is to get you guys to perform these tests and confirm with hard data the same results I get.

Once I get enough people to confirm with hard data and it matches my data then I goto Harrisburg and Washington and open up a can of whoop a$$ :-)

I have a feeling its "age" of car issue. ie newer cars post 2000 are not going to see these kinds of losses but older cars will.

the reason I think this is someone on here had a hybrid and saw the same HUGE loses I did but once they got their car "reprogrammed" at the dealership they saw the "expected" 3-4% loses.

Older cars can not be "reprogrammed"

I think Ethanol itself causes a 3-4% loss mathematically. but I think it has side effects OTHER effects that "cause" the older cars to lose even more efficiency.

At the minimum I want an E0 pump at gas stations so people with boats lawnmowers generators weed whackers and "older cars" can buy E0 and stop ruining their vehicles or ruining their FE.

03-27-2010, 08:55 AM	#31 (permalink)
Nerys Grrr :-) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levittown PA Posts: 800 Cherokee - '88 Jeep Cherokee 90 day: 19.44 mpg (US) Ryo-Ohki - '94 Geo Metro Xfi 90 day: 50.15 mpg (US) Vger 2 - '00 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE Ninja - '89 Geo Tracker 90 day: 30.27 mpg (US) Thanks: 12 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	I know this is PURELY temporary. Here is how I plan to run things. I know there are OTHER things I am removing unintentionally from the gas. Every washing so far has had these wispy white "solids" form at the boundary layer between the alcohol/water and gasoline. I make sure this stuff leaves with the water (don't want it clogging my fuel filters) but I am guessing this was something that was mixed in with the gas. Who knows what else I am removing :-) I plan to run 3-4 tanks of washed gas. Confirm or Deny a difference. If no difference I go back to regular gas and try to figure out what is wrong with all my cars to lose 20+% of their fuel economy. If confirmed my next step is to use proper regular E0 ie I drive up to allentown with 8 gas jugs and buy a bunch of E0 at the same time I wash some gas for my jeep my van and my pop's van and lincoln and my managers saturn and my mom's van and we see if they also see an improvement in FE. Do some ABA testing few tanks of E0 then a few tanks of E10 few tanks of E0 few tanks of E10 get the data. If this still confirms that ethanol is the source of the problem the next step is to get you guys to perform these tests and confirm with hard data the same results I get. Once I get enough people to confirm with hard data and it matches my data then I goto Harrisburg and Washington and open up a can of whoop a$$ :-) I have a feeling its "age" of car issue. ie newer cars post 2000 are not going to see these kinds of losses but older cars will. the reason I think this is someone on here had a hybrid and saw the same HUGE loses I did but once they got their car "reprogrammed" at the dealership they saw the "expected" 3-4% loses. Older cars can not be "reprogrammed" I think Ethanol itself causes a 3-4% loss mathematically. but I think it has side effects OTHER effects that "cause" the older cars to lose even more efficiency. At the minimum I want an E0 pump at gas stations so people with boats lawnmowers generators weed whackers and "older cars" can buy E0 and stop ruining their vehicles or ruining their FE.