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Old 04-21-2010, 04:38 PM   #63 (permalink)
Allch Chcar
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The old Honda CRX they say, got 40-50MPG and they still have 40mpg new system 50 mpg on the old stickers per the EPA with the 1.5 liter B series which was a SOHC. But they weighed less than a ton and emissions regulations were lighter in those days, the days of OBDI. But these were subcompact cars with 52BHP,72BHP, and eventually 92BHP. It's like Comparing the Geo Metro to a current generation Honda Civic. The CRX was a subcompact car with very little HP, when these cars were slower but they were light and expectations were less. Most of these same people probably forgot the heckling Honda received then for making such a, "small and lightweight and underpowered car."

The 1.3liter L Series which is used in Japan in the Fit and Europe in the Jazz, or is it the other way around? Anyway the 1.3Liter version of the first gen Civic Hybrid got a 50MPG EPA on the 7th Generation Civic base and still gets a 40mpg rating from the new system. But it weighs 2700lbs and is a compact car. It's not sporty but the 1.3Liter gets 85-91BHP and then it gets low end boost from the IMA system. It's not faster than a 7th generation Civic but it's the same MPG rating as the CRX more or less but in a much Bigger car.

And so yeah the MPG is similar but the cars are vastly different. I think it's not too much to realize that the MPG is not what they're improving over the original CRX it's the rest of the car was upgraded over time and now the MPG is still the same as the much smaller and lighter cars. If you compare the Hybrid versions of the Civic the Hybrid version is slower but it has the potential to get more MPG than the other versions of the Civic. Comparing the new Hybrids to the old Honda is crazy, if you liked the old Honda just keep driving those there's no need to call it a step backwards when the Civic has been growing with time to the point that expecting the same MPG as the older versions is crazy talk.
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