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Old 05-05-2010, 03:46 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by tjts1 View Post
Give the same type of driving and modifications you have, it will beat your mileage.
I take it you've never driven a manual transmission automobile, because you're surely not speaking from experience.

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Exactly. The newer more efficient automatics can use taller ratios than the manual counter part. They can get away with this because the automatic is willing to shift gears for acceleration more easily than the manual driver would, hence the higher fuel economy. Its about how you drive. Given the same efficient driver, the auto is more efficient in this case.
No, that's not it at all. The auto manufacturers put lower gear ratios in MTs because they think most MT owners want a sportier drive. When they want to, they can gear them like HXes and VXes. My xB is geared 16% lower than its AT counterpart, but my SE-R is geared only 4% lower than the AT SE-R. The AT xB gets higher EPA ratings. The MT SE-R gets higher city and highway EPA ratings than its AT sibling.
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49.5 mpg avg over 53,000 miles. 176% of '08 EPA
Best flat drive 94.5 mpg for 10.1 mi
Longest tank 1033 km (642 mi) on 10.56 gal = 60.8 mpg
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