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Old 07-02-2010, 10:57 AM   #154 (permalink)
EdKiefer
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Originally Posted by eco86 View Post
I haven't read through this entire thread yet, but AutoSpeed has some articles explaining how modern EGR systems can be used to increase fuel economy.



I've actually installed the system mentioned in the AutoSpeed article in my Honda Accord, and seen the MPG of my car jump between 6 and 10% depending on whether I'm driving in the city or on the highway. I set up a potentiometer that is wired so as to add resistance to the lift sensor on the EGR system, which fools the computer into thinking that the EGR is closed more than it actually is. I've also wired in a switch to allow me to go between the stock EGR opening and the modified values. On the Honda ECU, the computer is set to apply EGR at light throttle loads (<50% or so), but not at idle speeds (to prevent the engine from stalling). I'm not sure about Toyota or other manufacturer's systems, but this means that on the Honda, drivability remains the same, but part throttle cruise fuel economy improves, and the coasting distance with the throttle closed increases.
That site has good info IMO , I agree with most things he posts . On all the cars I have worked on that I notice EGR operation, they all work as you noted . nothing at all at low speeds near idle, then slightly above idle speeds the slowly open as long as its only part throttle (low loads).

I am afraid in stock config (EGR plumbing) , I don't think you can gain to much from increasing EGR flow as many cars I can hear a lite miss fire when EGR is fully open and in neutral .
I think the reason might be the distribution of EGR gas to each cylinder . Most just run a single EGR valve to the plenum and that might not give real even flow to each cylinder, if it had say a distribution piping to each runner I think it might get better results .
Other thing when EGR comes on full you need to raise throttle input a lot more to maintain power , some might not like this feeling (little less responsive ) .
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