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Old 10-03-2010, 10:45 PM   #25 (permalink)
cmj
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Originally Posted by mwebb View Post
in your car in your system
lean condition DID NOT CAUSE high combustion temperature .

your tampering with MAP voltage DID

by reducing the LOAD signal, the ECM provided ignition timing based on a lesser than REAL / ACTUAL LOAD so ignition timing was ADVANCED , TOO ADVANCED for actual conditions

if the ECM had been provided with a feedback signal from the AFR or front 02 sensor , the ECM would have attempted to compensate for the lean condition caused by reduced load signal .
BUT
the ECM would NOT have attempted correction to IGNITION TIMING advance .
peak combustion pressure was happening TOO soon , the engine was "pinging" and you either did not hear it or chose to ignore it .


...."I removed the factory o2 sensor to put the car into open loop and to use my wideband, but I was tuning beyond it's capabilities. Timing was stock.

>>>> Map voltage was reduced by 30% <<<<

last wideband reading was 19:1 before reducing a bit more fuel and maxing out the o2 sensor. Average RPMs were 2200-2600. Average MAP pressure was -19.7inHG and maximum was -11inHG.

Took it for a test run and car started smoking, and stumbling. Wouldn't hold idle. I got it home, checked the plugs and found my problem. This being my daily, I decided to forgo any extreme tuning as such until I can find a wideband that is capable of accurate readings at > 18:1"....
I'm completely dumbfounded.. I can't believe I didn't think of ignition timing and ecu control. Thank you mrwebb!

I'm honestly embarrassed.
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