[comptiger5000]

Stovie - The city driving mine sees (which up until the last few tanks was 90% of the driving) is mostly stop and go, and short trips. That was killer. In that cycle, I could get about 14 or a little more from an I6 grand cherokee. The big V8 is a killer, especially on the highway (can't break 20 stock). It's just not geared tall enough for mpg. As I start doing a few minor mods to the engine (and the rest of the Jeep), I should be able to get a bit more out of it.