Originally Posted by IamIan
I suggest you read more carefully ... it seems you are misunderstanding what people are posting , and completely missing some things people are posting.
We have not forget how to use the internet ... we already knew the information you posted in your links ... none of those are anything new ... we already know many things about each of those including the limits each has , and how they work... which some us of, me included have already tried to explain to you.
I never said IT WAS new.. again stop putting words in people mouths
4 of your examples were ICE hydrogen vehicles ... none of those examples you gave have ICEs operating at over ~40% efficiency.
These companies won't make it and have no intentions to cause of vested interest in the oil companies.. It is possible to do so.
I also already posted about the Honda Fuel Cell you linked to which maxes out at ~60% efficiency ... and the Ford fuel cell is not any better.
Again, they build it for less efficiency then they want as they have vested interest in the oil companies.
We already know the volumetric energy limits of hydrogen ... and we know the efficiency limits of these vehicles... and we know the energy used for aerodynamics, rolling resistance, etc.
Congrates, you can read a book.. since when is what you read ever 100 percent correct. Example the air to fuel ratio which is bs and bull crap by the way
Read what we are posting to you more carefully ... you seem to be missing allot.
I'm not missing to much since you seem not to read what I wrote
I already went through this as well... you seem to have forget my first post.
I already posted about the Electrolysis ... and alternative methods to allot split water to extract the hydrogen... go back and re-read more carefully.
Yeah congrates you can copy past
Oh i read what you pasted.. doesn't interest me.
We are all well aware of people running vehicles on hydrogen ... including getting over 12,000 MPG from hydrogen... as I posted.
However we know enough about these vehicles including the ones you posted links to ... to know how they work and what they can and can't do.
We do not just believe people without proof ... the opinions we have are based on proof and real data ... I have myself run experiments first hand ... as have several others on this forum ... If your opinion differs you need to provide at least equal quantity and quality of 'techy' , details, proof... so if you have 'techy' ... I still say ... bring it.
So far you have offered nothing to back up your claims ... back it up ... bring on the 'techy'. Claims of the possibilies are what you make them its your choice.
When he wrote about , 'positive energy balance' , he was referring to your claim of 300% efficiency.
Yes there is one and no it doesn't exist anymore for now.. Some have come close maybe.
Does this look familiar.
It does, there it is, WOW.. and your point is what?
oh wait, i know what your going to post.. bring it on.. LOL
This is you claiming a 300% efficient fuel cell ... when the best examples posted ... are 60% efficient.... and I was the one who posted that much ... because you wouldn't / couldn't even give us that tiny bit of 'techy'.
If you have 'techy' that supports your claims ... like 300% efficiency ... bring it ... bring us the 'techy' ... there are allot of well educated , experienced, and informed people on this site ... we can help you to understand what is really happening ... what is really going on ... you can learn more than you know now.
Oh yes we all need to help each other I agree. i dont disagree in not learning from others as knowledge is the best gift to a certain extent
I had hoped to at least to get some kind of elaborate 'techy'... come on ... wow us , with talk of energy band gaps, quantum spin, temporal flux, Dilithium crystals, Naquda , Tachyons, etc... I mean come on ... bad sci-fi has more 'techy'.
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