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Old 12-17-2010, 11:55 AM   #15 (permalink)
Piwoslaw
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Svietlana II - '13 Peugeot 308SW e-HDI 6sp
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I'm betting your engine warms up faster. Based on nothing
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I bet its slower, based on it being diesel.
And the winner is... Daox!!

Now the next question is: When does my 1.6 liter turbodiesel get up to operating temperature?

The find out the answer you'll have to read on :evil_smirk:

So today I found some time to do the idling test. When I started at noon it was sunny and a toasty -12°C (10°F) outside. Starting the cold soaked engine wasn't easy, especially when the battery is 5.5 years old and the glow plugs are acting up.

As mentioned earlier, I took notes every 30 seconds, writing down the intake air temperature, water temperature, fuel consumption and total fuel used. After the first few minutes I knew I was going to spend more time on this than 17 minutes. In fact, I spent more than twice that (35 minutes), and my coolant just barely got to 66°C (151°F). My normal operating temperature is 78°C (172°F). I wasted almost half a liter of diesel fuel. I could have kept it going indefinitely and the thermostat probably wouldn't open until April (starts to open around 83°C/181°F).

The experinment was done without my temporary thermal insulation, and with everything switch off. Here is the data:

time
(minutes)
Intake air
temperature
(°C)
Water
temperature
(°C)
Fuel consumption
(liters per hour)
Total fuel used
(liters, diesel)
0-12-121.200.00
0.5-11-100.940.00
1-11-70.950.01
1.5-11-40.960.02
2-1101.050.03
2.5-1031.040.04
3-1061.020.05
3.5-1090.930.05
4-10110.910.06
4.5-9131.050.07
5-9141.020.08
5.5-9161.020.09
6-8180.980.10
6.5-8200.990.10
7-8210.960.11
7.5-7230.970.12
8-7241.000.13
8.5-7260.970.14
9-6270.940.14
9.5-6280.950.15
10-6290.780.16
10.5-5310.800.17
11-5320.800.17
11.5-4330.780.18
12-4340.780.19
12.5-4350.770.19
13-3360.750.20
13.5-3370.760.21
14-3380.760.21
14.5-2390.750.22
15-2400.750.22
15.5-1410.720.23
16-1420.730.24
16.5-1420.730.24
170430.730.25
17.50440.740.25
180450.740.26
18.51460.720.27
191460.700.27
19.52470.700.28
202480.690.28
20.52490.690.29
213490.690.30
21.53500.670.30
223510.670.31
22.54520.670.31
234520.670.32
23.55530.660.32
245540.660.33
24.55540.650.33
256550.640.34
25.56560.650.35
267560.680.35
26.57570.680.36
277570.660.36
27.58580.660.37
288580.680.37
28.58590.680.38
299590.680.38
29.59600.670.39
309600.670.40
30.510610.670.40
3110610.660.41
31.511620.650.41
3211630.650.42
32.511630.650.42
3311640.640.43
33.512640.630.43
3412650.630.44
34.512650.620.44
3513660.620.45



After the test was finished I turned the heat and blower on and set them to max, and the coolant temperature instantly dropped 10 degrees to 55°C (131°F). I then drove 2km to the vet (with the heat on) and the coolant temperature never rose above 55°C.

Now that I have data from both this and the coolant heater experiment I'll crunch some numbers and see how to use the heater most efficiently.
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