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Old 01-03-2011, 04:39 PM   #371 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard View Post
On the question of Antarctic ice, you are correct that it is increasing slightly -- see the table at the bottom of the page:

All About Sea Ice: Characteristics: Arctic vs. Antarctic

I stand corrected. As you can see in the world temperature anomolies map I posted (the one with the different sized dots), the temperatures around the Antarctic ocean would also seem to show this.
Keep in mind that's only Antarctic sea ice, Neil, and not total Antarctic ice cover.

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All the facts I presented in the graphs above show the reality of the situation, and solar activity and changes and all the other myriad of factors are all taken into account.
No, Neil, they don't. Take a good hard look, and you'll see the only solar influence is infrared, visible, and ultraviolet. No mention of solar charge particles, no mention of sunspots, and certainly no mention of cosmic rays.

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How could scientists have missed such a basic factor? Of course they have taken all known factors into account; and I'm sure they have run the models on a lot of "what if" scenarios, too.
But that's just it, Neil. They didn't take in all of the factors, just the ones they know about. In addition, they can't even model clouds correctly. That's why climate models are a poor choice for predicting what will happen with temperatures, and particularly poor for reliance upon for carbon dioxide regulation.

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Watch the video, please. James Hansen has probably forgotten more about global climate change than you and I and the rest of us all put together will ever know. It is the height of arrogance to dismiss his scientific presentation as anything but factual.
Oh, please. I DID watch that entire presentation. Alligators in Alaska... India crashing into Asia, and causing locked calcium carbonate to eject into the atmosphere via volcanic activity. All very nice and pretty, Neil. However, the presenter errs by then stating that carbon dioxide is the only driver of temperature changes, and that Mankind is the only driver of carbon dioxide changes. Don't lecture me about arrogance, Neil, since you continually ignore or deny (hey, I'm supposed to be the denier, right?) scientific data that shoots holes in AGW big enough to fly Al Gore's private jet through.