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Originally Posted by Ryland

they are comparing them to other Nokian tires... in that product line... that product line being snow tires.

No, that is also comparing them to all of their other tires including the Nokian eNTYRE. I emailed and they said it was because of the higher silica content in the winter tires. So it also wears out much faster than the eNTYRE. In the Green Seal test a few years ago, Nokian's winter tire was one of the highest performers. So was Michelin's winter tire, and several truck tires.

Originally Posted by CigaR007

Michelin Harmony seems to be a good choice for LRR tires.

I emailed Michelin about a year ago, and they said Harmony was good but Hydro Edge was better. And now it looks like Energy Saver A/S is their best.

The Energy Saver A/S is Michelin North America’s most fuel-efficient All-Season Passenger car tire developed for the drivers of hybrid and fuel-efficient passenger cars that want to exploit their vehicle’s fuel economy without abandoning dry, wet and wintertime traction. Representing the forefront of Michelin Green X technology, Energy Saver A/S tires can enhance vehicle operating efficiency and environmental impact by reducing fuel consumption and carbon dioxide emissions while delivering year-round traction, even in light snow.

Expanding on the technologies of the Michelin Energy Saver summer tires introduced in Europe during 2007, the Energy Saver A/S All-Season Passenger car tire introduced in North America during 2009 offers exceptionally low rolling resistance at or below the levels offered by its European summer tire counterpart.

The Energy Saver A/S features Michelin’s EnergySaver Construction combined with a unique silica-based tread rubber that helps improve engine fuel efficiency by keeping the tire cooler. This compound is molded into a symmetric design that features siped, independent tread blocks to combine predictable handling, no compromise stopping performance and all-season traction without trading fuel efficiency. Circumferential and lateral grooves direct water through the tread design to help resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction.

Michelin Comfort Control Technology uses computer-optimized design and precision manufacturing to reduce vibrations and road noise to keep the vehicle quiet. The tire’s internal structure includes twin steel belts reinforced by spirally wrapped polyamide on top of a polyester cord carcass to combine strength, efficiency and comfort.

It looks like neither company is comparing to other companies' tires.

From the Green Seal report (2003):

Bridgestone B381 185/70R14 0.0062
Michelin Arctic AlpineXL 235/75R15 0.0081
Continental ContiTouring Contact CH95 205/55R16 0.0083
Nokian NRT2 185/70R14 0.0085
Dunlop Axiom Plus WS 235/75R15 0.0088
Michelin Pilot Alpine 205/55R16 0.0090
Michelin EnergyMXV4 Plus 205/55R16 0.0090
BF Goodrich Long Trail T/A 245/75R16 0.0092
Sumitomo HTR 200 185/70R14 0.0092
Dunlop Graspic DS-1 185/70R14 0.0092
Michelin XPS Rib LT245/75R16 0.0101
Dunlop SP Winter Sport M2 205/55R16 0.0102
Dunlop SP40 A/S 185/70R14 0.0103
Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50 185/70R14 0.0103
Michelin LTX M/S 245/75R16 0.0103
Bridgestone Dueler A/T D693 245/75R16 0.0103
Goodyear VIVA 2 185/70R14 0.0104