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i'll just point out that the forum specifically says "ONLY topics related to efficiency" and i think that's how it should be since that's what this site is about. i have my views about this topic, but i save it for places that are for it, not for a place where i can find all the information i'll ever need (from people who know more about it than me) in order to get to a 25 MPG average in my Jeep. Just my 2 cents.
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