Deja vu! I've had the same conversation/demonstration numerous times. The bottom line is, the whiner just likes to whine, as all the logic in the world isn't going to get him/her out of that ignorant empty guzzler until it consumes a big enough part of his/her budget to squeeze something they like even more out of it.
on them. So then after that, their whining is to be met with laughter and derision.