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Originally Posted by CapriRacer
TD,
Remember me? I'm that guy you are talking about - and I'm sorry, you have once again failed to accurately portray things. I mean things got so bad at that other web site, the moderators had to close the threads!
Please note how many posts I have made on this web site, while I note - at the time I am writing this - you have 3. Also notice how many times I have been thanked for my posts.
You must learn to be more careful about what you say. People may ask you to back up what you say.
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Hey CR,
Man it was a pleasure reading your posts and to tell you the truth, I am not afraid to say that, I have learned a thing or two.
I totally do understand your position (social and professional) and I like to believe that whatever you are doing (saying/typing) is in good faith.
But see what a difference between this forum and the other one. Here not only that no one is trying to "chop my head off" for advancing the idea that 50 PSI is not a bad thing, on the contrary they are ok with it, and some of them have already experienced the high pressure inflation.
Where I don't agree with you, and where we have really came toe to toe on the other forum, is that you are dismissive of my experience as professional precision/performance driver, of my 8 years plus of practical experience with more than 200,000 km driven on 10 PSI over the sidewall max on my training vehicles as well as my personal ones.
And what did you say? I quote your exact phrase: "Let’s talk credibility for a moment – as in, you have none."
More over you are dismissive of other 2 master drivers, Sgt. Dave Storton and Bobby Ore that are advocating high PSI, and applying this technique every single day.
For the people do not know who Sgt. Storton and Bobby ore are here is a brief summary:
Sgt. Dave Storton is the Director of the San Jose Police Academy, and he holds a Master's Degree in Adult Education. He is the lead instructor for the Emergency Vehicle Operations Course (EVOC) at the San Jose Police Academy, and is a lead instructor for the local regional academy. He teaches EVOC instructor courses, advanced EVOC instructor courses, off road EVOC, counter-terrorist / dignitary protection driving, and motion picture stunt driving. Dave has trained over 3,500 drivers.
Bobby Ore, a Precision/Performance Master Driver traveled the world for 25 years teaching military, FBI, CIA and Secret Service agents to drive in extreme circumstances.
He holds 13 automotive world records (to date), including one for driving a London double-decker bus on two wheels for 810 feet.
Now what I said then, and what I'll say now too, is that if those kind of people are wrong and they have no idea about driving, tires, safety and vehicle/tire dynamics, well I would rather be wrong too rather than follow urban legends spread, fueled and maintained by groups or individuals with the economical vested interest.
As a tire engineer you might know a lot about tires, but when it comes to driving experience, driving skill and capability....please let others speak.. ..
You are dismissing the hyper inflation like a plague, yet as engineer you said you never had the curiosity to perform any tests, laboratory or driving tests, where the tire will be subjected to regular loads at 50 PSI and see what happens. As well you said the tire industry never performed a a bursting point test. You told me that no one performed those tests because as far as the tire industry is concerned, such tests are not..."relevant"
But for me as the consumer is very, very important to know what is the bursting point of my tires under my vehicle load.
And if on a Crown Victoria with a (static) load of 4000 lbs. the burst point is 250 PSI (on a given tire) there is no reason in hell why I would drive around, as per car manufacturer recommendation, with 32 PSI.
As I said, I have nothing to prove, I have nothing to sale I just want to find out the truth. A truth that oil industry (car/tire/oil producer) is trying to bury it under a bunch of rubbish science or pseudo science and has all the interest to keep the general public uninformed so that they can generate more income.
Because let's be honest, the lesser PSI, the higher the rolling resistance, the bigger the profits for the above mentioned industry.
I told you I am willing to meet with you in person and spend a day or two on a driving pad or race track to experiment and document different PSI settings.
I am willing to drive all he way from Vancouver, BC ( yes on 10 PSI over the sidewall max.) to wherever you want.
You or anyone else for that matter willing to spend a weekend doing some tire tests.
Read the title of this thread: "Proposed braking test: comparing tire pressure @ 50 psi vs 35". That's what made me subscribe to this forum and start to participate.
Regards