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tjts1 · 07-11-2011, 05:49 AM

Don't be fooled. The fuel economy tests for urban/extra urban in europe overstate the EPA test by a wide margin. For example a Prius is rated at 3.9L/100km combined in Europe or 60 US mpg. The EPA says the exact same car gets 50mpg or 17% less. So you can take that 55mpg and call it. 45mpg in the US cycle. Diesel fuel is 10% more expensive than 87 octane so you would only have to managed 40mpg with a gasser to match the per mile fuel cost of the diesel. Is it still worth the extra expense of the diesel engine and emissions control equipment? I'll take a Sonata hybrid over that slow diesel contraption any day. The wagon body is tempting but a Sonata wagon is on the way so next year. And of course threes always the prius which has had a wagon/hatch body for 2 generations now.

More fun facts
Base Insight $18,970
Base Prius $23,520
Base Jetta TDI $23,765
Sonata Hybrid $$25,795
1.7 CRDi 115PS 5dr Blue Drive £16,500 before VAT ($26,329) OUCH!

$26k for a car that gets to 60 in 13 seconds and sounds like a tractor. Where do I sign up? LOL

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tjts1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: california Posts: 1,329 Thanks: 24 Thanked 161 Times in 107 Posts	Don't be fooled. The fuel economy tests for urban/extra urban in europe overstate the EPA test by a wide margin. For example a Prius is rated at 3.9L/100km combined in Europe or 60 US mpg. The EPA says the exact same car gets 50mpg or 17% less. So you can take that 55mpg and call it. 45mpg in the US cycle. Diesel fuel is 10% more expensive than 87 octane so you would only have to managed 40mpg with a gasser to match the per mile fuel cost of the diesel. Is it still worth the extra expense of the diesel engine and emissions control equipment? I'll take a Sonata hybrid over that slow diesel contraption any day. The wagon body is tempting but a Sonata wagon is on the way so next year. And of course threes always the prius which has had a wagon/hatch body for 2 generations now. More fun facts Base Insight $18,970 Base Prius $23,520 Base Jetta TDI $23,765 Sonata Hybrid $$25,795 1.7 CRDi 115PS 5dr Blue Drive £16,500 before VAT ($26,329) OUCH! $26k for a car that gets to 60 in 13 seconds and sounds like a tractor. Where do I sign up? LOL Last edited by tjts1; 07-11-2011 at 09:54 AM..