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Old 12-19-2007, 12:18 AM   #13 (permalink)
newtonsfirstlaw
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newtonsfirstlaw -

I would be verrrrry happy with a 45 MPH speed limit on LA freeways, but I don't think that'll happen any time soon.
It doesn't have to, all there has to be is an effective limit brought about by a relatively small number of people, and the perception that it is a popular movement that has brought this about (through the bumper stickers etc.) People often assume that if a small minority of people are willing enough to act or say something, that the rest of the iceberg feels that way too.

You don't need that many people trickling along at the minimum speed limit to back it up, because a lot of people are complacent.

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In keeping with the critical mass concept, I think you should initiate a "snail convoy" or "turtle convoy" logo. The idea is, if you see someone with this logo on the back of their car you pop in behind them, give them a snail/turtle signal, and create a "slow car convoy"
How would you give that signal?

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The car behind you can't get mad at you because it's obviously the fault of the car in front of you, and the car in front of you is "protected" from their wrath by you.
That's basically the idea. Except instead of
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Turtle Convoy ... Rest of world
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You have


Because not everyone will be mad. And the idea of the bumper sticker is that the next time you have:

etc. because someone has looked at the web address and done some reading.

The logical endpoint is

because eventually everyone gets the message who is receptive, and there are a few irresponsible hotheads.

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The ones behind you might be mad, but you would be saving them gas (if not time).
In larger cars, that would almost be paid for. You could save someone with a larger car a litre of fuel for 7.5 minutes of time. And by making motorbikes more viable, you could save someone else a much larger amount of petrol if they switch from an SUV to a motorbike (best case). ~7 litres saved, probably. It's common for businessmen in Asia to use scooters and motorbikes, there's no reason why we can't too.

We are already at the point where the time costs less than the fuel in some cases.
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