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Bruce, You make good points and I know that Craig is concerned about how some the compewtitors get around the 4 grocery bag carrying requirement. The challenge just tries to include real world driving conditions in real traffic so that the mgg results are truly useful rather than closed-course slow-motion exercises that you could hop a bicycle and beat. At the Carmel Vetter Challenge most the competitors rode their machine to the event ( me, Craig, Alan, Treven? , Carol, the Gold Wing ) . For me it was a 400 mile day.
all the best , L&S
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