Having a nice discussion over engines and such. Anybody want to chime in about the 870cc FIAT Twin Air Turbo? Looks like it'll make more power/torque with the same fuel economy as Daihatsu's KR-FE.
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Martin van Duijn (79 minutes ago)
And the Daihatsu Cuore engine too. But what about 85 bhp Fiat 2-cilinder Twin Air Turbo?
Tyler Linner (44 minutes ago)
Well, everyone knows FIATs are unreliable!
The KR-FE was rated engine of the year so I think it'll do fine. Unless you think the TAT will give better mileage.
Martin van Duijn (32 minutes ago)
Its mileage is comparable with the Daihatsu engine that the Toy/Pug/Cit triplets use, but it is more powerful and faster: max. speed is 173 kmh, 0-100 kmh in just 11 seconds. Just imagine what it will do in such a sleek aero package.
Tyler Linner (25 minutes ago)
One of the other reasons was tight packaging. I'm going to have to look into this Twin Air setup. Can you imagine a 900cc engine pushing the car to perhaps 150mph? It would be governed to 90mph, though. There's no need to go faster than that on any highway, and it really really kills mileage.
Martin van Duijn (12 minutes ago)
The TwinAir has a max. torque of 145 Nm at 1,900 rpm where the Daihatsu/Toyota etc. 3-cilnder has 93 Nm at 3,600 rpm. The TwinAir has 1,2 liter 4 cilinder power. Fiat will even offer it in the Punto shortly. The TwinAir does not come cheap, you''ll have to pay a € 1,300 premium over a 4-cilinder 1,0 liter Fiat 500. If it can pus a car to 150 mph I don't know, but for the 3-cilinder 1 liter that will be very ambitious too.
Tyler Linner (6 minutes ago | edit | delete)
I figure if the Tatra 77A could go 93mph with 75hp, this thing, with smaller frontal area and hopefully better aero should do at least 120... if it's offered with a 4 cylinder turbo I imagine it could easily hit 150.
Anyway, the premium may be a little high. It really depends, and if I were to make the car in real life I'd be more concerned when picking a powerplant. Does the Twin Air come with a manual transmission? That would seal the deal.
update...
Martin van Duijn (2 minutes ago)
Yep, it's a manual, with a start/stop system. I'd love to have one, and in this color.
Tyler Linner (1 second ago)
Uffda. Clutch. I'm pretty much sold on that.