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Originally Posted by Frank Lee
What's the difference?
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Here is the difference;
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Originally Posted by Arragonis
But (genuine question, not being argumentative) what alternative system would you see being used when/if that happens, or indeed to mitigate for the effects ?
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If we are agreed that resources are finite, and that an increasing human population tends to consume these resources at a greater rate, then we can conclude that population will be controlled by available resources.
Population can be controlled by disease, famine, war, natural disaster, or by limiting pregnancy (to name just a few). Most every means of limiting population is generally disagreeable. We have very few options that can be considered more agreeable, and within our control.
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Originally Posted by Arragonis
[Peak oil] may have happened, it may be happening, it may never happen.
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Peak oil is a certainty. All tangible things are finite, and consumption of such tangibles must therefore have a peak rate at which it is consumed.
At some point in history there was "peak horses". A point in which the earth used the most horses for transportation, and has since reduced the use of horses for transportation.
Ideally we would transition away from petroleum fueled vehicles in the same way we transitioned away from horses; a more efficient and cheaper alternative becomes available. Otherwise, we might be going back to horses, or turtle horses