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Old 10-17-2011, 06:24 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Frank Lee View Post
What's the difference?
There isn't one. Being afraid of being "green" is tantamount to being called a dumbocrat. By Bozo.


My question as quoted (to Frank as it goes) was about his comments relating to economic growth as opposed to PO as a specific issue. This has come up before and has descended into arguments. I am interested in what Frank says - I am happy if he PMs me instead of posting here if that helps.

As for PO - I have no idea, I am neutral. It may have happened, it may be happening, it may never happen. I have "heard" of Yergin, Smil & Roubini from books and articles I have read but I would struggle to tell you what they did or said - unless they were the back row for Manchester City in 1985 ?

As for "From whence have you come?" - I suspect a leading question too, but I'm happy to answer if you can expand on what you want to know ?


Well, if you boys are having an argument via PM's then excuse me from stepping in the door late. As you don't read, then I leave you to it.

"Peak Oil" is an accounting. Nothing more. But nothing less.

Every dollar -- every monetary unit -- has an energy debt. Every single transaction. Doesn't matter if the energy was originally human or fossil fuel. What happens if the predictability, the value, of that transaction changes?

From whence have you come is leading . . stick your neck out, son. Define what you are about.

A broken system isn't fixed by "systematic changes". That's the laughable part: No point in patching the tire when there is no longer a road to run down.

So here's a definition, an acronym to look up: E.R.O.E.I.

Start there and see where it takes you. I have a hunch you can have a fair number of decently written books at your disposal in short order. Then you can have some real fun. Stuck in Scotland, land of my hardheaded ancestors, I know you'll not lack for "debates" should you choose to improve yourself thus. It would all depend on what first catches your attention, your interest.

My apologies for the stridency. Call me whatever names you want, if that helps. The dinner table at our house allowed no prisoners taken. Hard to understand why you'd be asking others what you could easily find out for yourself.

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