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Originally Posted by Arragonis

It's interesting from a perception point of view and maybe it's location, or something else - I'm interested to find out.

Not sure what you mean by location? I'm a very mixed individual when it comes to location, my native language, where I'm born, where I grew up, where I lived the longest consecutively, and one of my citizenships are all in/from different countries so my point of view is a little all over the place. With more focus & experience on/with the continent where the car was supposedly "invented" and less on the continent where it started to be mass-produced and which frankly has a VERY limited selection today in an international perspective, one of the reasons why I have to "build" the car I want (see my other threads )

I see (I think) now what you mean by "location" and I put that on there on my profile on purpose both for privacy purposes *and* for the simple reason as explained above, I'm rather mixed for good and bad

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Here in the UK mainstream makers (GM and Ford included) have taken a lot of time with Aero since WW2 - in the 80s is was a "hot" selling point. Maybe in the "Internet" things are different

It's foreign to me to hear you use the term GM in a European setting I am more used to hearing the actual brands Vauxhall and Opel being used

I am not sure what Fords or Vauxhalls you are thinking of that would have been mainstream models and have FOCUSED on Aero after WW2? Surely Opel/Vauxhall (they're basically the same thing) had a few very nice ones like the Omega and Calibra for their time but those are also fairly recent. Now yes it was trendy to have rounder cars up until the 80's or so but that was mainly for styling more than aerodynamics.

Again though I was talking about "extreme" aero, where you so to speak START with a very aerodynamic style and try to make it as "acceptable" as possible to the consumers, and not vice versa as I believe has been the case for the past decades, again referring to the pics first posted as reference on this topic, fact is we STILL don't see any mass produced cars resembling that VW ready to purchase anywhere yet, aside from a few exceptions maybe like the EV1 by GM and Honda Insight Mk1?

Originally Posted by Arragonis

Their application of the technology and knowledge of the science involved at the time was probably less than the average EM Aerodynamics thread reader today though.

...aah yeah but as the pics I've posted earlier here both BEFORE and AFTER WW2 it's pretty obvious that the benefits of aero was far from foreign.


Here is a link to some interesting Cd & CdA values I just ran across:
http://rc.opelgt.org/indexcw.php that I just posted in another thread too, and to me it would seem it supports my perception that in the "early years" there were a number of vehicles achieving astonishingly good numbers, but aside from the few "exceptions" in the past few decades, we don't see MAINSTREAM cars on there before very recently. When I say exceptions I am talking about the numbers are so low vs the whole lineup during the same time frame that it would be considered "noise" in a statistical world.