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Originally Posted by TheEnemy
How is he getting 99% efficiency on a hydraulic system?
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Never said I was. At 0 wheel speed a hydraulic drive beats everything else and I can hold a 500 HP hydraulic motor in my hand (a quote from Charles Gray, head of the EPA consortium on HH research).
Direct electric drive regeneration efficiency is probably less than 20%. Some here like to ignore the facts for which they have no answer. It doesn't change the facts. It just dilutes an intelligent discussion with repetitive dogma, that has no basis in fact.
How do you recover the several hundred horsepower seconds of energy in 20-25 revolutions of two out of 4 wheels in your direct drive electric car. That's a 60-0 panic stop.
Since you can not regenerate it, then you need a brake system to stop. How can you claim no maintenance when you know it is a false claim. Less maintenance maybe. The battery pack and electric motor in a 2004 Prius was $14,000 replacement cost. When either of those two (out of 1000s) components fail the car is scrap metal. Just like the noisy cooling fan on my 3 year old CPU, when it finally gives out the whole thing is scrap.
People know this, they aren't idiots, like some may assume. I can ride my $2000 bike 100,000 miles at 60MPG on 1600 gallons of fuel. At the exact same time when your battery warranty runs out on a new Leaf. The math doesn't work and you will spend $4500 a year (at least) in 10 years on a new Leaf, especially if you don't pay cash for the car. Finance it and the price increases. They will lease it to you for $600 a month.
You claim it will last a lot longer, but there is no way you can support your claim with facts. As it ages the range deteriorates to 50 miles (estimated).
Sorry I just don;t have that much faith in "claims" 'Probablies" and "estimates". It's called legitimate skepticism. It reminds me of some of the gubbmnt estimates of the cost of legislated entitlements, or the cost estimates for defense contracts.
"It was an honest mistake" when someone overcharges you for a good or service.
Then why is the "mistake" never in your favor. Because it is not an honest mistake, it's really an attempted fraud, just like "claims" that have no basis in proof. Sure a 300k mile Prius taxi cab that is two years old will still have a good battery pack. What happened to Honda? Can we assume Nissan will have issues with their packs. Wait another 5 years and lets see how many Prius packs fail, but THATS RIGHT, they are that second class NIMH battery that no one wants any more. Priced one of those obsolete battery packs out lately?
Not rebuilt, brand new. Remeber the manufacturers like to mark their stuff up 100%.
Bottom line, there are many who read these threads. Do you honestly believe they can be convinced by "claims, Possibilities, no maintenance, and peak" when this is not something that has been proven over time.
Just plunk down $4500 a year and trust me, you will save $2k a year in gas.
Cost effectuive? Must have been that I was raised by a cost accountant.
Will your electric car last longer than your computer?
Probably
regards
Mech