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Old 02-13-2012, 09:51 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Looks like there are some bending losses with belts in addition to the slipping and compression losses in a scooter CVT. Hence double cogged belts to let them bend easier. 5 or 6% total loss is not a deal breaker I guess to get a lower seat height than you can get with a sport bike frame, and to eliminate shifting. It will be interesting to see what Allen comes up with for a forward shifter. Now that he has lowered the seat of his Ninja to the minimum in anticipation of a feet forward cruiser position inside the new nose, it looks very cramped to get onto the stock pegs for shifting. I also just noticed that Honda USA has dropped the SH150i in favor of the cheaper PCX which is not big enough to ever go 70 mph. Looks like the pre gen Ninja will stay the defacto used bike starting point for the soon to be ready Vetter streamliner kit. The better ones will then have to add an Ecotrons EFI conversion and find some way to de-tune the cams.
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