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Nerys · 05-30-2008, 03:09 PM

Yes I know I am trying (I spend over $4g's on gasoline that $3k is JUST for my work commute)

No the civic etc.. don't get double the mileage. I get 24-25+mpg with my Voyager. Double is 50mpg. Thats why I am looking for a metro but most are out of my price range. IE I can not afford a $3,000 car :-( 1600 miles a month $4 a gal $266 a month in gas just for my commuting. at 50mpg $128 a month in gas, saving me $138 a month in fuel. almost 23 months just to break even on the gas savings. Thats too long IE the "savings" is not enough to pay off the car so I need the money up front. I do not have it.

and thats at 50mpg. civic/corolla are not going to net me much above 35-40mpg making the payback period longer than the projected lifespan of the car before major repairs become an issue.

Now if I can find a $1200 metro things change a bit. now I WILL get 46-50mpg making the payback period to break even on fuel savings 9 months. Big Big difference.

I still can not afford even a $1200 car but I could probably scare up $500-600 and the payments would be less than the fuel savings IE I could do that :-) Just give that $138 month saved in gas to the car lot and its paid for in 5 months.

As for prius battery packs. Regardless of how long they last show me a single Prius with 600,000 miles on the clock. Show me one with HALF that on the clock :-)

I have no doubt they might last 150k maybe even over 200k (keep in mind those numbers are in CABS who drives orders of magnitude more miles than ANY of us drive IE there figures do not count) Lithium batteries have issues with AGE more than they do MILES in our math. 600,000 miles means 11-15 YEARS of driving for ME and I am a heavy driver.

05-30-2008, 03:09 PM	#53 (permalink)
Nerys Grrr :-) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Levittown PA Posts: 800 Cherokee - '88 Jeep Cherokee 90 day: 19.44 mpg (US) Ryo-Ohki - '94 Geo Metro Xfi 90 day: 50.15 mpg (US) Vger 2 - '00 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE Ninja - '89 Geo Tracker 90 day: 30.27 mpg (US) Thanks: 12 Thanked 31 Times in 25 Posts	Yes I know I am trying (I spend over $4g's on gasoline that $3k is JUST for my work commute) No the civic etc.. don't get double the mileage. I get 24-25+mpg with my Voyager. Double is 50mpg. Thats why I am looking for a metro but most are out of my price range. IE I can not afford a $3,000 car :-( 1600 miles a month $4 a gal $266 a month in gas just for my commuting. at 50mpg $128 a month in gas, saving me $138 a month in fuel. almost 23 months just to break even on the gas savings. Thats too long IE the "savings" is not enough to pay off the car so I need the money up front. I do not have it. and thats at 50mpg. civic/corolla are not going to net me much above 35-40mpg making the payback period longer than the projected lifespan of the car before major repairs become an issue. Now if I can find a $1200 metro things change a bit. now I WILL get 46-50mpg making the payback period to break even on fuel savings 9 months. Big Big difference. I still can not afford even a $1200 car but I could probably scare up $500-600 and the payments would be less than the fuel savings IE I could do that :-) Just give that $138 month saved in gas to the car lot and its paid for in 5 months. As for prius battery packs. Regardless of how long they last show me a single Prius with 600,000 miles on the clock. Show me one with HALF that on the clock :-) I have no doubt they might last 150k maybe even over 200k (keep in mind those numbers are in CABS who drives orders of magnitude more miles than ANY of us drive IE there figures do not count) Lithium batteries have issues with AGE more than they do MILES in our math. 600,000 miles means 11-15 YEARS of driving for ME and I am a heavy driver.