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Originally Posted by Nerys
I drive right by 12 gas stations. More $$ is a non issue.
Biting your tongue. The PURPOSE of life is to enjoy life. All other purposes are secondary at best. If I can do so cleanly all the better
THERE ARE VIRTUALLY ZERO CONSEQUENCES TO ELECTRIC CARS!!
The only thing stopping us is that greedy GM sold the battery patent we need to chevron via texaco. If not for that we would be driving $10,000 electric cars today.
$2600 will let me put a grid tie in inside my garage and a sufficient solar panel on my roof to generate and sell back the grid MORE POWER than I will use to charge my electric car.
The NIMH batteries are rated to last 250,000 miles probably a LOT longer if you buffer the power verse range requirements. MANY estimates of 500,000 miles are WELL within the realm of feasible before you would HAVE to replace that battery pack. and thats 10 year old tech.
The cars would use NO FLUIDS AT ALL except Freon and Washer Fluid for the wind screen.
The cars would be made of aluminum and plastic rendering them virtually maintenance free and virtually every lasting.
TYPICAL components CAN and DO last to around half a million miles WITHOUT replacement. I KNOW I am restoring my 88 Cherokee with 452,000 miles on it. I put less than $1,000 in repairs in the ENTIRE time I have owned this vehicle.
SO YES I and DEADLY fraking serious when I say we can RETAIN our rural lifestyle with virtually ZERO consequences to both our pocket books and the environment.
If you consider TRANSPORT is mandatory IT IS effectively zero consequences.
HOW MANY CARS have you gone through in your lifetime? Imagine if you could buy ONE CAR and it would last your LIFETIME and MAYBE just MAYBE you might have to replace that battery pack a single time in your lifetime.
CAN YOU EVEN IMAGINE the Ramifications this would have on EVERY ASPECT of potential consequences From the materials needed to build the cars (aluminum and plastic being 100% recyclable being an additional bonus) to the materials needed to MAINTAIN the cars to the destructions of our environment as we DISPOSE of all this material to maintain our cars to the vast waste as we dispose of and replace these cars MANY MANY times in our lifetimes.
ALL THAT GOES AWAY with electric cars. There is NO DOWNSIDE to an electric car economy EXCEPT to those top 2% who RAPE us to maintain out current economy of oil.
For the other 90% of us its would be a new golden age of prosperity.
There is a small bump of course. Until the R&D dollars flow we will be limited to 150-200 mile ranges but thats insignificant. The savings would occur SO FAST so Completely that the adoption rate would be incredible! Within a decade we would have significant penetration and the R&D dollars would flow by necessity. The range problem would be Very very short lived.
GM realizes this. Chevron Realizes this. Hence the literal crushing of the EV1 and the selling of the all important battery patent.
I WILL NEVER give up my clubwagon. I could NEVER afford to buy another one. Was pure luck I was able to get this one.
In the winter I drive the mercedes in the summer I drive the Minivan. When we go away its VERY affordable to drive the Big van. It gets the equivalent of over 30mpg since it allows us to take a SINGLE vehicle or 2 Vehicles instead of 2 or 3 vehicles.
And you Adam78. GOD FORBID if the idea that we NEED to change our lifestyle at all is a simple FABRICATION of greedy people who want to rape us.
Eventually we WILL have clean power. Its inevitable. Whether that be capacitors and solar/wind/sea of Fusion or space born power IT WILL come.
Combine this with anything that is electric and its a WIN WIN WIN all around. There is NO downside.
THE ONLY thing stopping me is The batteries. THAT SUCKS. These fraking *******s are abusing our patent system to PREVENT the release of a technology. They have no interest in "profiting" from it because they make more money with there current technology which the new technology threatens.
Talk about being wasteful. How about the energy you burn and consume riding a bicycle everywhere. Increase your cycling 5 fold how much more energy are you going to consume? Deodorant Water Food Parts etc.. etc.. etc..
This planet will be TOAST long before the sun burns out. IT IS for all reasonable purposes FREE energy. There are NO human or planetary consequences to tapping it. It blasts so much energy into space that the tiny amount we grab is absolutely immeasurable on a stellar time scale.
Technically EVERYTHING has consequences. It would be silly to say otherwise. but we can place a LIMIT on what we consider consequences. Electric car consequences in comparison to ANY OTHER solution verse its benefits are ZERO.
THE ONLY ones who would lose is that top 2% profiting on our raping.
DO the math. I have. A Nimh powered electric car uses $1 in electricity to go 100 miles in driving. If you actually think that this $1 in electricity EVEN IF ITS FROM A COAL POWERED PLANTS AND THE DIRTIEST COAL PLANT ON EARTH is remotely comparable to the 5 gallons of gasoline the average american car will burn going 100 miles even the 2 gallons the MOST EFFICIENT cars we have will burn. Add to that the fluids materials etc.. and crap that is used as well.
If you really think these are remotely even slightly comparable there is something wrong with our information flow around here :-)
There is simply NO downside to an electric car economy when compared with ANYTHING else we currently have. The differences are just so dramatic.
Just seriously stop and THINK about the extreme far reaching consequences of an electric car economy.
I could live anywhere I wanted as far rural as I wanted travel any distance I wanted and have virtually ZERO impact on the environment OR my pocket book.
Imagine if we were free to travel anywhere with almost NO cost and NO damage to the environment.
Just consider what this would DO to our world. The transfer of power back to the population would be immeasurable.
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Now thats a great rant i can get behind!
sad thing is that if we all rolled on electric,
chances are the cost of electricity would sky rocket
