[t vago]

Originally Posted by drmiller100

temperature describes the pressure of the steam, unless you get over 700c or something, which vago keeps ignoring.

Originally Posted by t vago

Well, water is a strange animal. Above 373 C and 22064 kPa, it's not really purely a gas nor purely a liquid.

And if you'd have bothered to do some basic research, you'd find that peak combustion temperatures are well above 700 C. In fact, at peak combustion temperature, water actually disassociates. Why not impress us with your superior knowledge and tell us what peak combustion temperatures are? Draw on your extensive Honda engine knowledge.

Originally Posted by drmiller100

and the combustion is for SURE over 700c.

Fer shure. Totally. Like, gag me with a spoon. Ohmahgawd!

Originally Posted by drmiller100

the other thing vago keeps ignoring is the steam makes a variable compression ratio, leading to "perfect" compression, by definition.

How so? Do you mean that I keep shooting down your magical 1700:1 expansion ratio? Let's bring that up again.

Originally Posted by drmiller100

And the whole "quench" thing is just malarkey. pretty hard to kill an internal combustion engine with water until it hydraulics.

I refer you to this paper that your friend tjts1 posted.

Originally Posted by tjts1

You should read this.
http://nepis.epa.gov/Exe/ZyNET.exe/9...ieldOp=0&Docs=

Hm... Even the EPA would agree that elevated water mass causes misfiring.

Originally Posted by drmiller100

and vargo continues to puzzle on what happens to combustion temps in the presence of water.

Originally Posted by t vago

...the obvious benefit of moving the conditions of the combustion chamber away from detonation and pre-ignition...

Originally Posted by drmiller100

and, temperature might set the steam tables below 600c, but over it, we are back to ideal gasses, and at the transition "weird" things happen, which really points to the idea the whole issue is more of an issue of btus.

Then, by all means, enlighten us, drmiller100. Tell us what peak combustion temperatures are. You know oh-so-much about how Honda engines work. Educate us.

Tell us how steam magically makes things all better. Ignore that it takes heat energy to make steam. Ignore that your combustion chamber has to itself push down a piston, and incorrectly assume that all of the heat energy from burning fuel is available to make steam. Go ahead.