[War_Wagon]

Well the OP posted this because he was in fact not moving to a temperate climate. Having lived with unpleasantly cold weather, I can say that the ideal way of doing things doesn't always apply, sometimes you just need to not be outside as quickly as possible. But as you said, most people do gravitate towards lazyiness, and all of the people I know around here fit into your 30 minute rule. One person I know lives 5 minutes from the beach, and hits his remote start on his Duramax a good 10 minutes before driving. And that's in the early fall! The windows aren't even frosted up! He likes the heated seats to be warmed up by the time he gets in. I shudder when I hear stuff like that, but short of snapping the antennas off his remote unit in the truck there isn't much I can do about it.