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Old 11-05-2012, 12:42 PM   #119 (permalink)
niky
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There are only two sides to the coin. Truth and non-truth.

You arrive at truth by checking all the evidence. And you arrive at non-truth by making up the conclusion then paying attention only to the evidence that you think supports your conclusion while ignoring evidence that doesn't. This is called confirmation bias, and it's a fallacy that many people fall victim to.

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It surprises me that you haven't even cited sources for the "Farmer Suicide meme", when a short google search will turn up a history of massive suicide rates for Indian farmers dating back to before Monsato started selling GMO crops.

Whoops. Maybe that's why.

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/colu...cle3595351.ece

Wow. Monsato must have been pretty influential to cause a massive uptick in suicides four years before they started business there, eh?

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I wouldn't be surprised if Monsato was a greedy, bloodsucking corporation. I wouldn't even be surprised if Monsato cotton had hidden downsides. Having all farmers rely on a monoculture brings us right back around to the problem of industrial agriculture... crop hardiness and the disease resistance inherent in a varied genetic pool is sacrificed for maximum volume. And it doesn't hurt the company to have a monopoly on the cotton. Monopolies, especially state-supported ones, are bad stuff.

But to program your products specifically to fail? What would the point be? If you kill off your customers, then you have less profits. The only agricultural concerns that rely on such hardcore rip-off tactics are fly-by-night miracle crop proponents like Jatropha-pushers (also state supported!), who sell a product supported by shoddy research and false market claims.

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You're talking to a Luddite. One who refuses to buy into hybrid hype, baby formula marketing, smartphones and credit cards. But my objections are based on simple, provable facts, not conspiracy theories with no sound basis.

How do you know you're on the path to truth? The ability to change your mind in the light of new evidence. I've changed my stance on oil, energy futures and climate change based on the quality of evidence I've reviewed. Have you ever had the guts to change yours?

Last edited by niky; 11-05-2012 at 12:56 PM..
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