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Old 11-17-2012, 10:33 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Conceal and Carry gun laws offend my sensibilities. "Reality" TV shows offend my sensibilities. Cable already shows pretty raunchy stuff. Where do we draw the line?

Your sensibilities can be offended. No one is forcing you to pay for cable or forcing you to watch it, change the channel or turn it off. Then move to a location that limits your right of self defense.


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When I'm running through the street drunk and naked, perhaps the cars are in my way. After all, pedestrians have the right of way. It's a public street that I help pay for; I should be able to use it however I choose. (Not really, but you see where I'm going?)

Someone driving without a license is a danger to me because I know if they lose control and hit me (more likely if they have no drivers training) that I may not get the care I need to get better. I may not have the money to fix my car or buy a new one. That's why we have insurance- so if you f**k someone's property up you are able to fix it and they can go on their merry way. Letting people drive without insurance is automotive roulette.

So you would oppose Jaywalking laws? Pedestrians have the right of way at crossings. They are often specifically barred from entering motorways.

A drunk running through a field harms no one, in the street he deprives other users thier rightful access.

An unlicensed driver driving down the street does not deprive anyone of access.

Life is roulette, do what you can to mitigate the risks to your self if you desire.


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You need a permit to buy and carry a gun. You need to take safety courses to get them, iirc. I personally think the legality of pistols is ludicrous because they are specifically designed to shoot humans at close range. Not that rifles can't... but have you ever heard of a deer hunting pistol?
You really should educate yourself on this.


Depends on the location, more locations are dropping restrictions against effective self defense with positive results. Vermont has never had a restriction and blood regularly flows in that most dangerous of locations.


There are several manufactures that produce handguns for hunting. I have taken deer with a handgun, it was very tasty (the deer not the 1911).


I legally carry daily and have no permit necessary for my state (I have one for a state I travel to as they require one). They have a background check that insures that I am not barred the right to use a handgun for self defense due to past violent crimes, mental instability, etc. Someone having a concealed firearm does not effect you one whit (stats indicate they actually make you safer but you would likely dismiss them due to your bias). I think it is cowardly to be willing delegate deadly force to another person (at risk to themselves) on your behalf and not be willing to take steps to protect yourself and loved ones first.


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Minors are not allowed to vote because they are not mature and may not be able to process information and form thoughts and opinions as readily and effectively as adults. Would you trust your 5 year old niece to pick out your new car? Would you trust her to elect our next president?

Would you trust your 5 year old niece to drive you to the grocery store without insurance?
No and I never advocated that a 5 year old be given run of a vehicle. A minor is unable to appreciate the responsibilities that some rights carry with them, it is up to the parent/s to get them to understand responsibility when they come of age.

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Driving without insurance is dangerous to others. I'm willing to bet 95% of people driving without insurance do so not because they have the means, but because they can't afford (or are too cheap) to buy it.
Frugality is not a crime.


No causing an accident and being unable or unwilling to repair the damage is irresponsible.

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able or likely to cause physical injury

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One who is mentally or financially unfit to assume responsibility for one's actions.
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