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Old 11-29-2012, 01:40 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard View Post
Who is sensationalizing one event? As mentioned in the video, the 5 biggest storms all occurred since 1992 and 4 of those since 2005, and the insurance actuarial tables show the trend. I hope you watch the video.

Another chart from NOAA:

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The US was not as hot as the rest of the world this year, as far as I know. Certainly not in October.
I checked and double checked, the graph you posted was for the national average (cherry picking) and showed October being the higest October ever, where October was actually below average. (graph incorrect)

The Frontline vidio was accurate but biased, there is also a campain though less out in the open to discredit any scientist who disagrees with the concensus. There is massive ammounts of money also being spent to sway the public into supporting that we are the sole cause of global warming, often targeted at young children, going for getting an emotional response and a knee jerk reaction to supporting a stance that is not entirely true.

Back to radiative forcing...



and using the equation dF= 5.35*ln(c/c0)

The direct measurement using a full spectrum source (not one represenative of the earth) comes up with 3.39w/m^2.

dF = 5.35*ln(600/300) = 3.71w/m^2

Correcting the equation to match the measured result changes it to
dF = 4.89*ln(c/c0)

So for current increases
dF = 4.89*ln(390/270) = 1.80w/m^2 assuming the earth is a perfect black body radiator, which it is not.