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Old 04-17-2013, 07:52 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian View Post
You also have to consider the difference in the mileage tests. The Euro tests give higher numbers than the US EPA test. It's not a direct percent change, it varies by vehicle, but the difference is in the 10-15% range I believe. ...
It is even much worse than that.
My lifetime MPG on the Insight is 48.67 mpg (US) right now, which is about 20% over EPA and 5% below the manufacturers claim in Europe. A 25% discrepancy!

The European tests are done with a hot engine from start, perfect conditions and ultra smooth tracks, no lights, no A/C, no radio, no heat/ventilation...

I test drove a Seat Ibiza ST Ecomotive 1.2 TD 3-cyl one day. It had NO low-end torque under 2000 RPM. Don't grief for missing that one in the US... I was happy to buy something else.
A colleague of mine has its Skoda sister model as a company car and gets far worse mileage than I do on the Insight. To be fair, he doesn't try. Nor would he buy that car for himself when the lease contract expires.
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