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Old 04-26-2013, 07:35 PM   #29 (permalink)
IamIan
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We more or less agree on a lot of stuff, finaly


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With 'pretty much' I meant 'almost'.
fair enough ... as long as you recognize the penalty... your ahead of many P&G advocates who refuse to do so.

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the increase in resistance is 3 times the square of 10%, which is just 3% for a 10 mph difference between high and low speed.
yup a 3% penalty.

If one is able to improve the average ICE efficiency by more than the P&G varying seed penalty is there a net benefit... if not it is just a penalty.

I have seen many P&G die hard advocates do much much more than 10% from high speed to low speed.

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Give me lots of time and an empty road and I can easily get my Insight over 80 mpg by P&Ging like this . Make it a windless 30C day, then maybe 100 mpg is attainable.
Driving at slower average speeds consumes less energy P&G or not.

The better comparison is the same average speed.

And as it so happens ... another forum member did some constant speed tests with a Gen-1 Insight on flat level ground ... so you can compare your P&G MPG at the same average speed to his ... and see where the P&G is giving you a benefit , or not.

So @ and average trip speed of 30 MPH you have to do ... much better than 80 mpg ... you have to get better than 131 MPG... or keep the ~80mpg but do it at an average speed of over 60 MPH ... if you get less than that at the same average speed ... then that's the breaks .


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