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the problem with kbb is that its a broad area, a car rated good in Texas would be considered excellent up here in Ohio. Most the time people take KBB's price and jack it up higher if the cars mostly stock, that way when someone tries to bring the price down they get what they think the car is worth. when i go into something like this i bring money in pocket and when you go to do the dealing with the price bring out the cash money talks
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