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Old 06-10-2013, 04:12 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Grant-53 View Post
Yes riding a motorcycle in a hurricane is frightening, so is driving a van. The advantage of a glider hull or any oval cross section fairing is that the lateral Cd is greatly reduced. This means the wind does not push the bike as much. The other factor in stability comes from down force which can be generated by the angle of attack. The shape can be shortened to 75% Kamm cut off as long as the center of mass stays well ahead of the center of pressure. We are fortunate here in that we have over a hundred years of aviation and motorcycle history including four national museums within a hour's ride. I test all my fairings in cross winds for minimal wind steer effects.
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I really like the idea of a streamlined motorbike but remembered an article about the Peraves some decade ago where its side wind vulnerability was mentioned as a major concern. The current model is much shorter than what I remember seeing.
EDIT Looking at both models it doesn't seem to be much shorter, just higher.
Also no glider hull even though it is very aerodynamic. The one glider I've flown was very low, knees almost as high as my head; during winch start my head was the lowest part of my body. Cannot stabilize a bike like that.
I've ridden low recumbent bicycles too; they get very tricky at lowish speed, it takes some training to just get going.
The Peraves, like the Vetter bikes, allows a more convenient seating and much better control.

If I ever get a glider hull, time and funding I'd build a trike which can lean into corners, just like the Piaggio trikes but with double rear wheels instead of fronts. Both wheels on separate and counterlevered swingarms with a locking mechanism to keep it level at low speed. The swingarms bend slightly inwards when the bike is leaning so the track width stays more or less the same independent from the angle.
Powered electrically by a small battery and solar panel, also pedal power; to accelerate faster, to get home in all circumstances and to do away with the need for a heater. A real zero emissions vehicle but with performance to match traffic requirements.
Maybe when my kids are old enough to go to school by themselves...
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