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Originally Posted by t vago
They're not alternatives to petroleum, which is what the EV crowd is dead-set against.
Besides, who says it's bad being green? I'm here, aren't I? I've made contributions here which have been shown to reduce fuel consumption, right?
I just don't buy into the whole green-as-religion idea. An open mind is paramount, but it does not mean that one's mind should be so open that junk falls in and crowds out the facts.
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I am sure that most of the EV crowd would agree that there will always be a need for oil. Not just as a fuel, but as a feedstock for industry.
What we speak of is the finite supply of FOSSIL resources. Even WITH fracking and deep ocean mining. All you are doing is postponing the inevitable.
The links you posted are part of the answer. But it will not allow us to continue at the consumption rate we are now at. You may poo poo the peak oilists but societal reactions to stressors are real. I grew up on a small Pacific Island and watched tribes war over something as simple as water rights. Oh! That sounds like the American West 100 odd years ago! Expand that to the world stage and you can see that things can go to pot in very subtle ways. Cheap, dense energy is what drove the industrial revolution and carries us today. That energy was FOSSIL fuels.
I think we agree more than we disagree on the need to find alternatives to bridge us to the holy grail of energy - fusion power. There will not be the societal upheaval if we can buffer the transition via improved recovery of FOSSIL fuels, improved use of those fossil fuels and the introduction of energy alternatives incremental though they may be.
And that space based microwave projector ? Besides costing Trillions of dollars to place and maintain, I fear the Dr. Evils of the world who could use it to fry Tokyo. I chose Tokyo as an example because Godzilla has wrecked it many times over.