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Old 07-12-2013, 11:00 AM   #856 (permalink)
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Agreed; but the '~U$15000/yr' may be true globally, in the USofA it's north of US$50K/yr.

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As admirable as Elon Musk's effort is, it is the system that is wrong. Even if you want to, knowing what is required, it is very difficult to step outside it alone.
Have you read Fuller extensively? His life (he called himself Guinea Pig B) was an example of doing just that, successfully.

“If success or failure of this planet and of human beings depended on how I am and what I do… How would I be? What would I do?”
― Buckminster Fuller