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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Producing steel under current environmental standards won't neutralize the pollution from the older steel manufacturing process.
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Exactly ... That is a pollution penalty for the older vehicle's operating life time ... that the older vehicle will never escape.
= Con for Old.
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Some improvements in an old beater can be applied with a smaller energy expense than it would be required in a newer car with an increased electronic complexity.
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Some yes ... it could be less ... and others ... it would be more.
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
An old-school engine, either a Diesel or a spark-ignited one, is still usually easier (then cheaper and less energy-expensive) to convert to alternative fuels than a Prius engine. I can set a carburettor-fed engine to run on both gasoline and ethanol without having to hook it up to a computer since there is no ECM to require a reflashing.
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And after you spend the pollution cost to do that... that old vehicle ... is still polluting more per gallon and using more gallons per mile.
= Con for Old.
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Considering what it does in such a low-geared brick, yes, I do. If I would ever buy a Prius bodyshell, I could eventually consider to put an old Diesel into...
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By all means ... and it would still be producing more pollution per gallon or per mile.
= Con for Old
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
I don't consider E20/E25 as bio-fuel, since I can have E96h here in Brazil. And no, the Prius doesn't run on E96h back here.
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But sense you plan on including overhauls and modifications anyway ... then E85 Prius is available ...
link ... and would produce less tail pipe pollution than that 7,700 lbs van on E96... for every mile you drive.
The Prius may not even have to go to E85 to produce less tail pipe pollution for every mile ... but the point remains , the Bio-Fuel Option is not exclusive to the old 7,700 lbs van.
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Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr
Any source of organic matter can be turned into bio-fuel, including some sort of synthetic gasoline like the one that was made out of wood chips in Poland during WWII.
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Exactly.
= No exclusive benefit for the Bio-Fuel for the Old ... they both can do it ... but the Prius will do it with less tail pipe pollution per mile.
= Con for Old