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Old 09-11-2013, 08:16 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Just when I am giving up on this thread and site along comes a good guy.

I would add that the year long testing of the Chrysler Turbine Car proved it was ready for prime time.

The Turbine racing car also proved them ready for the big time.

The ONLY way the powers that be could win was cheating.

Rich

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They developed our tastes to suite what was most profitable for them to make, our government over the years has done many things to promote poor vehicle choices as well, including misstated and erroneous information on crash worthiness and tax and emissions exceptions on large trucks to single occupant drivers along with gas tax, supply & price manipulation being a few examples.



I bought a 50mpg 2010 cobalt XFE off the lot new and am considering a volt depending on whether or not I can upgrade one of my existing EVs appropriately and of coarse the status of the "used" market or in this case the $22.5k new 2013 volt.

Currently I would like to unload my cobalt, keep the G1 insight and unload one of my antiques.

I can certainly afford to be in the car buying public but view new car purchases as rather wastefull. I usually only make those purchases on a utility VRS cost to own, the leaf/volt are one of the few situations where I might break from that attitude.

But alas, neither the volt or the leaf are really what I want, they are good cars but an EV1 like vehicle or XL1 like vehicle would be something I would be much more likely to buy on emotion and thus ignore the cost/benefit.

(realistically the volt would need to be able to carry extra cargo and payload to justify their extra size over other equally cheap to run vehicles I have. It also needs better FE and a different powerplant. Though I would guess the volts hatch and seat arrangement could be modded by me to be used for many purposes, I am sad my cobalt isn't setup like the volt with an open layout)



They are slowly coming along, but much progress is still there to be made.

Also they are not necessarily cheaper to own than my 70-80mpg insight considering the up front cost. I also doubt they are more efficient than my c-car or my fathers Miles Zx40.

I always want more, only natural, sadly my only outlet would be non-production vehicles.



EPA rules are good and bad, if the rules disallow a car that gets 100mpg and forces you to get 65mpg because of NOx an exception should be made. Common sense needs to be injected into the emissions rules, right now many are just silly. The best way of reducing pollution is to burn less fuel, the volume of pollution emitted is most affected by how much you burn, not how clean it is.

That is why I would support weight based emissions requirements on cars that get beyond the normal 50mpg or whatever is reasonable. So if I make 25gr of Nox Per mile, that is my emissions, not this ridiculous percentage crap.