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Old 09-18-2013, 09:49 PM   #1031 (permalink)
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My definition of good, in this case, is what I see as contributing the most happiness to the most people over the longest period of time, taking into account what we know of how the world works and what is happening to it.

Assuming that because some people have a boneheaded definition of good and bad, ALL definitions are equally boneheaded is a fallacy, and an idiotic one at that.

My comments are based off of what you say, and how you respond to my other comments. You're not being exactly clear on what YOU think, so all I have to work with is your words. If you think I'm getting it wrong, then maybe try to do a better job of explaining yourself.

I think that EVERYBODY makes some level of moral judgement about most things, even if their approach is pretending to somehow be above it all.

I try to have MINE informed by science, which is not the same as "it is the role of science to assert morality". False assumption is false.

You seem to be trying to read things into my comments beyond what is actually there. You asked about the dangers I think are presented by climate change, and I answered. There's no "moral judgement" there, just our best understanding of how the world works. You seemed to find those dangers to be in some way unworthy of consideration, despite the fact that they are currently coming to pass, and then you went into a non-sequitor about breeding.

As I have said, overpopulation IS a problem, but it's not one that can be easily or quickly solved without genocide, which is something (*gasp*, a moral judgement!) of which I disapprove. The source of our energy, on the other hand, is comparatively easy to solve, as shown by the considerable progress already being made around the world.

The problem, with climate change, is WHAT we consume, and how we consume it, neither of which HAVE to be the way they are right now, any more than they are now the way they were 50 years ago.

YOU seem to be searching for a way to dismiss and ignore the whole issue based on some form of moral relativism, but again - you haven't really bothered to actually explain yourself, you just drop the occasional one-liner and fixate one small parts of my comments that have little relevance to my overall point.