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Originally Posted by XYZ
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
But no matter how "nice" you may be... it doesn't matter whether Barack Obama or Jesus Christ or Mahatma Gandhi were to sit behind the wheel of an old Chevy wagon and drive it - the MPG numbers you cite ain't ever gonna happen. Maybe in heaven, or in utopia, or nirvana - but not in the real world. No matter how "nice" you may be to your old station wagon.
I don't believe your stats without there being hard, provable evidence of it. Anyone can make a claim and say they get this or that incredibly high MPG. But saying it is just talk. Without actual proof, it's just puffing smoke.
"Puff the Magic Dragon" belongs in the Unicorn Corral, IMHO.
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It appears to me that perhaps your thoughts of how the kingdom of heaven works are tenuous. Saying "It ain't ever gonna happen" and then sticking to it only because you've never heard of it before or even thought of it before is like (Figuratively speaking) people scoffing at lightbulbs back when Thomas Edison was working on it, But many people have lightbulbs now.
Thomas Edison found many ways to not make a lightbulb, He just didn't give up (Or so the story goes - But the point is there's a way to get 30 MPG in this wagon, If what works is used. 28+ in a Caravan isn't unheard of!)
Have you been around here looking at the figures that hypermilers got out of pickup trucks? If EOCing is such a great benefit to Diesel Dave and if Big Dave manages 26+ MPG in his 7000+ pound Ford truck (nearly doubling the EPA figures), I don't see why a much lighter station wagon - Which is rated by EPA standards as getting higher than those trucks - Can't have such a benefit with lots of EOCing and turning the car off at red lights among other techniques, mods and maintenance.
And discerning what is from what is not, Is fine.
Funkhoss, I believe you can get over 30 MPG in that wagon even with the 5.7 L Motor. If you're going to keep at it, You could check out the Garage section of this website and add your wagon to the fleet. You can track your fuel use from tank to tank that way, It's a nice feature, See the "Moony" Link under my screen name on the left for an example. It would be valuable information for people too, I don't know of many people on this site who actually drive wagons regularly in hypermiling.