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Old 11-03-2013, 08:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Honda CBR250R FI Single - '11 Honda CBR250R
90 day: 105.14 mpg (US)

2001 Honda Insight stick - '01 Honda Insight manual
90 day: 60.68 mpg (US)

2009 Honda Fit auto - '09 Honda Fit Auto
90 day: 38.51 mpg (US)

PCX153 - '13 Honda PCX150
90 day: 104.48 mpg (US)

2015 Yamaha R3 - '15 Yamaha R3
90 day: 80.94 mpg (US)

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CVT's will rise. Materials are better and some peoples expectation of high engine power is less so they can handle it. But belt loss will always be high compared to a gear. Honda has an all new CVT for the new FIT. We will see how it goes. The CVT in the gen2 insight seemed to work out to be less than fuel efficient. And they are somewhat limited on the max gear ratio change. Cars with the regular manual trans option always get shorter gears which is the only reason their planetary auto versions get a higher rating. Dual clutch transmissions seem to be the best of both worlds and Honda has figured out how to put the electric motor out on the end of one shaft instead of on the flywheel which makes engine off driving much more elegant than what was in the gen2 Insight. I wonder how long it will take them to make a gen3 which could rival the Volkswagon XL1 at a much lower price.
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