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JamesQF, RustyLugNut questioned the validity of that survey, pointing out that it included people that worried about having enough food in the future, which I believe should have been a separate statistic. I tend to skip meals also, my girlfriend does; I imagine that it is fairly common.

Doing another search, I found Hunger Statistics, Hunger Facts & Poverty Facts | Feeding America

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In 2012, 49.0 million Americans lived in food insecure households, 33.1 million adults and 15.9 million children.
[Coleman-Jensen, A., Nord, M., & Singh, A.. (2013). Household Food Security in the United States in 2012. USDA ERS.]

I will rely on the USDA, at least for now, but that number, which uses "food insecure" instead of "hungry," even if they weren't, is ten million lower. It also says that the majority receive help from the government.

I asked my mother about this yesterday and explained that I had gone from the idea of ending domestic hunger to spending a small portion on science fairs and the rest on trying to improve living conditions in third-world counties.

She got all emotional about kids going hungry in this country. More trying to end the conversation, I said "Okay, fine. I spend all of my money providing free school lunches, run out, and everybody goes hungry again."

"They will still be hungry on weekends!"

If they are currently alive, they have some minimum quantity of food, and if I provide food on school days, whatever they used to survive for seven days should be adequate for two. We have discussed why people go hungry in the United States. The food is here. That sounds like a very messy problem and if I try to discuss it, I will only have more people harassing me for only caring about the United States.

Redneck, there you are again with useful information! I had been talking about investing most of the money and only spending the interest. Of course, I had not specified where I would invest it, but Monsanto and Cargill are profitable companies, and purchasing them would allow me to benefit people with all of my money, while establishing something long-term.

Sheepdog, Greenland is accurately depicted on the map, right? I believe that I have brought up water supply before, but we have not had any details.

I just found 2013 World Hunger and Poverty Facts and Statistics by World Hunger Education Service

Interesting details:

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There are two basic types of malnutrition. The first and most important is protein-energy malnutrition (PEM). It is basically a lack of calories and protein.
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The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization estimates that nearly 870 million people of the 7.1 billion people in the world, or one in eight, were suffering from chronic undernourishment in 2010-2012. Almost all the hungry people, 852 million, live in developing countries, representing 15 percent of the population of developing counties. There are 16 million people undernourished in developed countries
How many hungry people do we have in the United States?

Countries in Asia and the Pacific are making great progress overcoming hunger and Latin America and the Caribbean are also making progress, although there are more hungry people in Africa than before.

Then they mention that they changed their estimation method. Doesn't that make it impossible to compare data?

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Geographically, more than 70 percent of malnourished children live in Asia, 26 percent in Africa and 4 percent in Latin America and the Caribbean.
Wait, are there more malnourished people in Asia than hungry ones?!

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The principal problem is that many people in the world do not have sufficient land to grow, or income to purchase, enough food.
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Hunger Notes believes that the principal underlying cause of poverty and hunger is the ordinary operation of the economic and political systems in the world. Essentially control over resources and income is based on military, political and economic power that typically ends up in the hands of a minority, who live well, while those at the bottom barely survive, if they do.
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Hunger is also a cause of poverty, and thus of hunger. By causing poor health, low levels of energy, and even mental impairment, hunger can lead to even greater poverty by reducing people's ability to work and learn, thus leading to even greater hunger.
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Climate change is increasingly viewed as a current and future cause of hunger and poverty.
Many of these issues seem too big to fix, so let's focus on the ones that we can. I still like the Monsanto and Cargill idea, although it almost sounds the hungry need more protein than anything else. From an article that I read last week for class:

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[…]the shift from foraging to farming occasioned a new way of living, new kinds of settlement patterns, and new foods, all having a profound impact on human health and lifestyle. In general, the shift resulted in the consumption of a less varied diet and reduced meat consumption and access to key micro-nutrients, such as iron (Larsen, 2003).
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That is, increased carbohydrate consumption (domesticated plants) results in increased tooth decay and associated oral problems (reviewed in Larsen et al., 1991; Larsen, 1997).
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Evidence also indicates that the shift from foraging to farming resulted in a change in nutritional quality for many settings. Maize is deficient in amino acids lysine, isoleucine, and tryptophan. Moreover, iron absorption is low in maize consumers, and vitamin B3 (niacin) is chemically bound in maize, reducing its bioavailability (Ashworth et al., 1973). Millet and wheat contain little iron, and rice is deficient in protein, which inhibits vitamin A activity (Wolf, 1980). Moreover, the focus on domesticated plants would have resulted in a reduced availability of essential micronutrients found in meat but not plants, such as iron, zinc, vitamin A, and vitamin B12 (various papers in Demment and Allen, 2003).
[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...0618206000334]

Yes, well, according to vegetarian\vegan propaganda, meat takes way more resources than plants. Heifer.org looks interesting (Thanks, P-Hack).

How about this?

Micro-lending Shows Promise for Clean Water
Digging is Easy

So, purchase Monsanto, Cargill, and other profitable agriculture-related companies and then donate half of the annual profits to The Heifer Project and the other half to Water.org?