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Old 02-28-2014, 02:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by elhigh View Post
This is the part of the argument where everyone starts yelling about safety again. And again I tell you, you're going to die. If people weren't so reliant on built-in safety measures, maybe there'd be much more careful driving.

If you really want people to avoid rear-end collisions, install a six-inch spike to the center of the steering wheel. Following distances will increase dramatically.
I LOLed.

You're right though. When Nader finally got cars to include seat belts, the number of accidents increased dramatically. People increase their risk whenever their perceived level of danger decreases.

Do you really think all those idiots would be cutting you off if people drove old cars that didn't have seat belts, airbags, and safety glass?

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Originally Posted by PaleMelanesian View Post
It's 54 mpg unadjusted epa. That's about 42 mpg on the window sticker. We have a whole group of cars available today that already pass that mark.
How is it that the law is 54 mpg, but it gets "adjusted" to 42 EPA? My understanding was that the average of all the cars sold had to be 54 mpg, which means some of the cars would have to get much better fuel economy, and some of the cars would get much worse.
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