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Originally Posted by elhigh
At this point I'm strongly considering building an HHO system and buying some time on a dyno just so I can generate some solid, irrefutable numbers. I don't need them for my own convincing, I already know it's 100% BS.
Unfortunately doing that would only bring out the flat-earthers shouting I had done it wrong, that I was faking it - faking it failing! - that the system was rigged. Knowing that it would be expensive to do and that that would be the result, however, takes all the potential fun out of it.
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I did extensive work almost two decades ago on hydrogen augmented combustion. Some of it touched on HHO as a matter of course. It was not seriously considered for the market, but it was a curiosity which showed how small mixtures of hydrogen and oxygen could affect combustion. I am working with our legal department to see what information I can reveal as much of the work is general information at this point. If you are going to just build a "YouTube" unit and stick it on any engine and run it on your local performance dyno - you will probably get little useful information. The engine may not be a design that is responsive. Also, most performance dynamometers are not calibrated to fractional horsepower outputs that ecomodders are interested in. Not all of them have fuel flow meters calibrated to the low flow levels we would be looking at and the resolutions needed. Luckily, in cylinder pressure sensing suites are now available for under 10k sidestepping the need to engineer your own as we did. Complete engine management systems are also available for 3K dollars or so - though, I still prefer to program my legacy MicroPic Industries MCUs simply because I like the complete control it allows me and I'm stupid that way.
I would simply like to have a more defined view of the technology than the simple opinions and rants provided by the forum members - let us be honest, that is all most on this site have provided. With a battery of testing and a level of understanding, we can authoritatively confront a scammer salesman who will have nothing more than "testimonials" to throw back. Also, if a forum member decides to experiment, there will be a framework of understanding from which to start - or not.