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Old 10-30-2014, 10:46 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Any crop that is used to produce fuel reduces the supply of land that can instead produce food.
You've heard of brewer's grains... right? The byproduct of distillation- makes high quality animal feed. Yeah. All that corn was going to be animal feed in the first place.

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In other words, if E85 has superior properties such as lower cost, environmental advantages, and more power, then it should be used by everyone.
Yup- up to our capacity to produce it.

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I'm just as confused, but according to World Hunger, 14% of US households are food insecure.
Could be but it's not from a lack food availability. And I'd argue it's not even a matter of food cost.

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Funny, when I was in grade school they taught the necessities of life as water, food, shelter, and clothing. How the times have changed.

It appears that the cost of housing has steadily fallen throughout history, according to average household sizes from the US Census.
The impoverished- mainly seniors, right?- often spend so much on health care and meds it squeezes necessities out.

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I had the opportunity to test it for myself back in 2008, when Oregon required me to stop filling with RUG, and instead use E10. To my surprise and disbelief, my records showed a decrease in fuel economy by almost 10%. This didn't make any sense, as the math would suggest I should only loose about 3-4%.

I'm unable to test on my current vehicle, as the only stuff available is E10.

However, I do believe that some vehicles are less impacted by the lower energy content of ethanol than others. Whatever claims are made on this forum, I'm inclined to take on faith as accurate.

As I said, if a vehicle were made to take advantage of the properties of E85 while maintaining a price per mile advantage, I would probably buy it.
I haven't had practical access to E0 for almost 40 years yet I handily beat EPA ratings w/o "hypermiling".

I and others have already proven E85 can lower cents/mile costs. Like I told Humongous, you can do it yourself or not; it's no skin off my rear. Just be honest about it.
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