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Originally Posted by Baltothewolf

30mpg is not a hard stretch to get in a Dodge Caravan or a Honda Odyssey.

I believe it. I had a little FE comparison route worked out when I was in the rental car industry. I was smitten with the Pentastar V6 in a Caravan I drove (and a Chrysler 200, a much-maligned car which I actually liked) - ballsy and efficient. So impressed was I that a Chrysler Town & Country is our top choice, so long as it has Stow N Go. For some reason we both prefer the Chrysler to the Dodge, even though we both eschew most of the creature comforts offered these days (a Rio was a 1st choice for us at the time owing to manual windows, etc.). An Odyssey is our backup choice. Not as quick, but fairly close. Efficient. Not a fan of Honda interiors though, and I keep hearing rumors of transmission problems. I guess Chrysler quality is kinda like Vegas gambling though...you're gonna lose. Ah, pros and cons on both.

Kia is out, it feels so...not really cheap, but generic, no personality. Dodge, kinda feels not as special. Sienna? I don't like the later models, in or out, on a lot of levels, and my Ma had an '04 which ended up being a reliability nightmare - second least reliable car in the family behind my Mom's Beetle. But not really that far behind...