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seanof30306 · 12-03-2014, 12:28 PM

I've just finished reading all 75 pages of this thread, and all I can say is "wow".

If there's any group of people who I thought would have embraced the idea of this car, it's this one. Instead, it's 75 pages of nitpicking, negativism, and whining.

Look, there's a lot that concerns me about the Elio, but I'm rooting for them to succeed. Every time I get in my car to drive somewhere, all by myself, I think how wasteful it is, and how I wish there was a viable single-seater, all-weather, safer-than-my-motorcycle option that was affordable.

Well, the Elio is it, and there isn't anyone else out there doing anything better.

Yeah, the backseat is bullsh*t, but so is the back seat on my '89 Formula Firebird. No one is going to buy an Elio for the back seat.

Yeah, I'm concerned about the engine. I'd prefer they use an existing, proven one, but I also wish my girlfriend had DDD boobs, an insatiable appetite for boom boom, and din't insist I watch Dancing With The Stars with her to even have a shot at it once, or twice a week. Not gonna happen.

Yeah, when I look at their website, and see all the options shown are CAD drawings, it concerns me. Tells me they haven't even built mock-ups of them yet, and they're talking about being in production soon.

And then, there are all of the people whining about wanting a redesign, putting the door on the right. Are you kidding me?

On the website I belong to for my Firebird, the Holy Grail is the crosslace GTA wheel. The factory only produced them in 16", and there is CONSTANT discussion over getting them in 17", 18", etc sizes. A couple of years ago, after a ton of searching and research, I found a wheel manufacturer willing to do that wheel, at a reasonable price. The crosslace center is very complex, so CNC would have been far too expensive. He proposed having a cast center manufactured,, then welding them into hoops, giving the customer options in wheel width and backspacing. Great, right?

On the forum, all you saw was griping about the price, whining about the cast center, and on, and on, and on. Once the thread got longer then two pages, you then got the gripers and whiners who only read the first couple of posts, then re-griped and re-whined things that had been discussed and addressed multiple times. The wheel guy was originally an avid participant, but eventually got so disgusted he backed out. I didn't blame him a bit.

The best post of all for me here was the guy who went to one of the events and gave the demonstrators a lecture on aerodynamics and what was wrong with the Elio, and was excited that they'd told him they's look into it.

Really?

"Boss, Boss! Some guy from an internet forum just came by and told us we have poor aerodynamics!"

"WHAT????? Hold on, you punk!"

Grabs PA microphone.

"STOP EVERYTHING!!!!!! WE"RE REDESIGNING THIS PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!! NO MORE ROUND SUSPENSION PIECES!!!!! MOVE THAT DOOR TO THE RIGHT SIDE!!!!!! SCRAP THE ENGINE, WE'RE GOING WITH THE SNOWBLOWER MOTOR!!!!!!"

Jesus Christ, let them build a car ... then tear it apart.

Me, I'm interested. I won't buy one year one, but if they're around for year 2, or 3, I'm a customer.

12-03-2014, 12:28 PM	#735 (permalink)
seanof30306 EcoModding Lurker Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	I've just finished reading all 75 pages of this thread, and all I can say is "wow". If there's any group of people who I thought would have embraced the idea of this car, it's this one. Instead, it's 75 pages of nitpicking, negativism, and whining. Look, there's a lot that concerns me about the Elio, but I'm rooting for them to succeed. Every time I get in my car to drive somewhere, all by myself, I think how wasteful it is, and how I wish there was a viable single-seater, all-weather, safer-than-my-motorcycle option that was affordable. Well, the Elio is it, and there isn't anyone else out there doing anything better. Yeah, the backseat is bullsht, but so is the back seat on my '89 Formula Firebird. No one is going to buy an Elio for the back seat. Yeah, I'm concerned about the engine. I'd prefer they use an existing, proven one, but I also wish my girlfriend had DDD boobs, an insatiable appetite for boom boom, and din't insist I watch Dancing With The Stars with her to even have a shot at it once, or twice a week. Not gonna happen. Yeah, when I look at their website, and see all the options shown are CAD drawings, it concerns me. Tells me they haven't even built mock-ups of them yet, and they're talking about being in production soon. And then, there are all of the people whining about wanting a redesign, putting the door on the right. Are you kidding me? On the website I belong to for my Firebird, the Holy Grail is the crosslace GTA wheel. The factory only produced them in 16", and there is CONSTANT discussion over getting them in 17", 18", etc sizes. A couple of years ago, after a ton of searching and research, I found a wheel manufacturer willing to do that wheel, at a reasonable price. The crosslace center is very complex, so CNC would have been far too expensive. He proposed having a cast center manufactured,, then welding them into hoops, giving the customer options in wheel width and backspacing. Great, right? On the forum, all you saw was griping about the price, whining about the cast center, and on, and on, and on. Once the thread got longer then two pages, you then got the gripers and whiners who only read the first couple of posts, then re-griped and re-whined things that had been discussed and addressed multiple times. The wheel guy was originally an avid participant, but eventually got so disgusted he backed out. I didn't blame him a bit. The best post of all for me here was the guy who went to one of the events and gave the demonstrators a lecture on aerodynamics and what was wrong with the Elio, and was excited that they'd told him they's look into it. Really? "Boss, Boss! Some guy from an internet forum just came by and told us we have poor aerodynamics!" "WHAT?????* Hold on, you punk!" Grabs PA microphone. "STOP EVERYTHING!!!!!! WE"RE REDESIGNING THIS PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!! NO MORE ROUND SUSPENSION PIECES!!!!! MOVE THAT DOOR TO THE RIGHT SIDE!!!!!! SCRAP THE ENGINE, WE'RE GOING WITH THE SNOWBLOWER MOTOR!!!!!!" Jesus Christ, let them build a car ... then tear it apart. Me, I'm interested. I won't buy one year one, but if they're around for year 2, or 3, I'm a customer.